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what the feck is AOO TLP ?

(Update: 28/10/2008 here)

Having been chastised for using these ‘unknown acronyms’ in my comment on jd’s weblog, I thought it worth writing a brief entry describing what these acronyms stand for and how they may be of interest for those purchasing or upgrading Adobe software.

Essentially this is all to do with volume licensing as an alternative to purchasing products through the Adobe store or other 3rd party suppliers. Volume licensing sounds like it is aimed at large organisations purchasing site-license. However the Transaction Licensing Programme facilitates as little as a single product license. The way the scheme works is to provide a transaction discount should you purchase multiple products in a single transaction based upon a point value for each product. TLP purchases may be made through 3rd party suppliers, but also through Adobe directly as in my case. There is no published price list so you need to request a quote.

The key point of interest to me was the Upgrade Plan which allows licenses to be purchased over 24 month subscriptions. Essentially this means I effectively have already paid to cover my CS4 upgrade. This is the point I was trying to make on jd’s weblog. He acknowledges that trial versions of CS3 products not being available until mid November is a ‘Pain point’ and he provides some explanation including the phrase “The big shipping versions get released first.”. Well I’m a AOO TLP upgrade licensee who’s just been told I may have to wait until the ‘end of November’ for it to physically ship to me. If it is painful for ‘users’ who haven’t paid for the software yet, imagine the pain for those who have paid for the software, but may have to wait until the end of November.

So while the Upgrade Plan offers some value, fulfilment seems less than ideal especially given this Key benefit documented on the Adobe site: “Get timely notifications of new upgrades, so you can stay on top of new product releases.”.

This is now my latest bug-bear. For Adobe to see how the customer experience could be improved in this regard, they need only look back to the now discontinued Macromedia DEVNET Pro subscription, where serial numbers and downloadable installers were immediately available to subscribers from day one of a new product shipping.

If this was fixed, I could now be blogging about cool new stuff in CS4 rather than  fuming over this and wondering if I would actually be better-off purchasing through conventional means.

UPDATE : 28/10/2008

Received my Adobe License Fulfilment email on 26th. Logged in and was able to request media for the upgrades, but at the time couldn’t see serial numbers or any way of downloading. However just checked again today, and the serials are there and I now have downloads in progress – and at a good bit-rate. So I’m feeling a lot happier now than when this post was originally published. While the process has not been entirely seamless, this time is far better than my previous experience with CS3 where I had to wait for physical media.

my CS3 licensing resolved at last

Notes are in the update to the ‘horrible‘ article. Sigh of relief!

my experience with Adobe UK Licensing – horrible

I really didn’t want to write this post. Much of my time is used advocating Adobe tools and technologies to colleagues and clients. I’d rather be exploring and blogging on the integration of work-flow of CS3 and Flex. But after exchanging with Adobe UK License Support, something in the order 28 emails since 26 April, and following a brief 30 days of the free trials, I am now unable to use CS3 Web Standard until Adobe gets around to sending me the installation media.

UPDATE: Resolved 22-June-2007

in the beginning…

In the MacroMedia days I was signed up to DevNet. Expensive. But a key benefit to me was the immediate availability of new product versions and serial numbers. When DevNet was discontinued I followed the advice in the discontinuation email at the time, to purchase a 24 month MVLP subscription. This purchase was made in January 2006 – right in the middle of the transition to Adobe – which probably caused the first couple of problems.

problem 1 : MVLP to AOO ?

In January of this year whilst in the process of purchasing Flex Builder 2 I made a couple of approaches to UK Licensing

  1. To see if I should purchase Flex Builder 2 through AOO
  2. To to see if my MVLP needed to be migrated to AOO

To the first point, I was invited to contact “Adobe Local Office for Enterprise Customers”. It became clear that the lead time to fulfilment was going to be too long so I eventually purchased Flex Builder through the Adobe UK On-line store – expensive but quick. To the second point I simply received the reassurance “Please be informed that as long as your maintenance is valid when the new version will come out ,you will receive the free upgrade automatically.”. This turns out to be a standard fob-off reply and is not based on the information of my original question.

problem 2 : MVLP agreement lost

As the release of CS3 was imminent, I had seen forum messages of other developers who had been migrated to AOO (begrudgingly), and had received email notifications with respect to CS3. Neither of these had happened for me so I contacted License Support UK again. The alarm bells rang with this part of the reply: “Since July 2006, all M.V.L.P client information has started to migrate into a Adobe Domain. Thus, I have searched and I cannot seem to find this maintenance agreement.”. Yet the rest of the email seemed to reassure me that “The account will automatically receive the upgrade information and media.”. However the fact the agreement couldn’t be found suggested to me that nothing would happen automatically, and I had to insist that some investigation take place and supplied all my certificate information.

problem 3 : MVLP to cover upgrade? – some doubt

“These details pretain to a Normal license protocol.” The suggestion here seemed to be that the MVLP certificate did not entitle me to upgrades. Somewhat confusing as it was for that reason it was purchased – I already had the rights to use Studio 8, I didn’t need MVLP to continue using it. I was invited to scan and send the certificate for further research – and did so.

Responses had been quite quick so far. At this point the ‘question’ was escelated to something called “L3 licensing”. The response from which requested details of the reseller and the invoice. Ironic, as this had been purchased directly from Adobe / Macromedia – no reseller.

problem 4 : Adobe response times here-on-in are SLOOOOOW

A week passed with no word, so I sent a nudge. The reply “Please be informed that we received your email and we re-escalate your request to the local office,we will contact you as soon as we will have an answer.”

Six days later I nudge again. The reply : “I apologize for any convenience this matter may have caused you but I’m still waiting for an answer, your issue has already been escalated from the Local office to the Licensing team and as soon i will have an answer I will contact you by email or by phone.”

Another week passes. I nudge again – rather more forcefully. But the reply looks familiar: “Your request has already been escalated from the Adobe Local office to the Licensing team and we are still waiting for a response, I will re-escalate your complaint and I will contact you as soon as I will have an answer.”

problem 5 : Welcome to the Adobe Licensing Web Site

Without announcement, on the same day at 10:22pm I received login details to the licensing site. However upon logging in my account contained nothing. No certificate. No license. No products. No serial numbers. No downloads – nothing.

I gave it a few days and checked again – no change. Time to send another nudge. The reply: “The order has been place under a wrong account number that’s why you can’t see anything. I asked if we can send the certificates that contains the serial number to your adress email and if we can send you free install CD. I am waiting for an answer, and we will contact you as soon as possible once a solution has been found.”

So, waiting again!

It is clear that UK License support do not have authority to act and are continually waiting on some other authority at each step of the process.

Another 5 days and I nudge again, 1 day short of the expiry of my trial period on CS3 products.

problem 6 : I got the certificate – now what?

By return, I had received the certificate via email. Followed by a message : “… and also we escalate your request to claim the media coupon codes.”

I was hopeful, but despite the invitation on the Flash CS3 “Software Setup” dialogue to enter the serial number on my Adobe Open Options license, the serial number is rejected.

problem 7 : trial period over, and I am without CS3

More days have passed. Apparently “its not possible to use a volume license serial number on your trial versions. Converting Trial Product to TLP or CLP Volume Licenses: Customers must uninstall the trial version and install the software using the correct media.”

And guess what? : “There was an error with the media coupon codes and the local office working with your issue”

wrapping it up

As I write this, I am waiting and fuming. I have been given no time frame during which in which I can expect fulfilment. There is a limit as to how long I can delay my work. If it comes to it I will have to go to a shop and buy it all again – can you imagine the anger that will brew up.

Frankly the people who have dealt with my emails have been curtious at every stage. However it appears to me that they are not empowered, and are probably inhibited by the processes implemented within Adobe. This goes on to enforce my opinion of Adobe’s split personality where the tool development, product evangelisation and support from the technical side of the business is second to none. But on the business side, the pricing, licensing policy and procedures are something of a let-down with plenty of room for improvement. It is particularly galling that one of the reasons given for inflated pricing outside the US, is the cost of locally employed personnel.

I have asked on a number of occasions for the contact details of a senior manager to whom I can raise my concerns. So far that information has been omitted from any replies so I gave up and blogged here to get it off my chest.

I haven’t seen many similar complaints out there. Is my case a one-off? This has been my first experience of Adobe Volume Licensing. Should I try to get out and back to standard methods of software purchasing?

I write this one day short of 7 weeks since the start my communication on this. Who knows when it will end? I’ll post an update here when there is final resolution.

UPDATE: Looks like I’m not the only one suffering, check this on the Adobe user to user forum. – How do Adobe expect their customers to be in any way satisfied with this crappy process? There really does seem to be no-one in-charge.

UPDATE (22 June 2007): As I write this, I’ve just done a 2 hour round trip to collect the package from UPS. I missed the first delivery attempt – I didn’t know the package had shipped. Stayed in all day for the second delivery attempt, but somehow between the first and the second the delivery address got messed up on the parcel – so it went back to the depot. (This whole process is jinxed). Now to see what’s in it and if it works. Note: my “Easy to use” licensing service lets me log-in – but then contains no menus, no options, nothing!

UPDATE (22 June 2007): It works! I used the Adobe Uninstaller utility to remove the trial versions of CS3 products then installed from the supplied media. Entered the serial number once. And we are in action for all the apps. What a relief. The whole process took 8 weeks. (Admittedly the last 4 days was due to messing about with the courier). If I added up the chargeable time I wasted in this process, it would have been more efficient – as well as more convenient – to have thrown away the old license and bought the software afresh. Reliance on this as a business model is not something I would recommend to Adobe. I guess mine was a special case? But it has revealed weakness after weakness and failure after failure in the system. Adobe – you need a trouble-shooter! Seriously! When you have a case that doesn’t fit the normal process, you need a human to cut through the normal red tape.

The remaining residual problem, is that I now have two accounts on the Adobe Worldwide Licensing site. On one account I can log-in, see all the controls, but not find my certificate or any other content. On the second account I can log-in, but once there, none of the menus are available. I can’t do anything other than log-out again! Fortunately the certificate was emailed to me a couple of weeks ago.

I dread having to deal with AOO licensing in future.

Update (10 July 2007): My account on  the Adobe Worldwide Licensing site is finally fixed.